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Judge Dredd might be...

Postby Captain Obvious » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:09 pm

gay. Ok, comic book heroes have traditionally been asexual or the two that come to mind are spider man and superman have a girlfriend.

Why does sexual orientation have to come up in comic books, and I believe that in the movie adaptation, Stallone got the chick in the end. No pun intended, really.
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Re: Judge Dredd might be...

Postby Lord Tuvitor » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:31 pm

If it plays a role in the story arc or adds a dimension to the character, I don't see a problem with it.

And as far as I know, comic heroes were almost never asexual.


Cyclops? Jean Grey.
Batman? Vicki Vale, that Rachel chick, Catwoman, etc, etc, etc (Bruce Wayne got around with all those billions of dollars he had lying about)
Wolverine? Mariko Yoshida. He was married to her.
Nightcrawler? Some chick named Amanda at one point, and a whole bunch of others he's flirted with in his random swashbuckling about the Marvel Universe. Kitty Pryde too I think (or maybe that was just chemistry, I haven't read those particular comics since the early 90's)
Mr. Fantastic? Susan Storm.
Even ever-so-aloof X-Men Storm was in love with Forge for years.
It goes on. Off the top of my head I could probably list twenty more, but I don't want to bore you to death.

Relationships are a part of stories. Many people in the real world are gay. Hence--many characters are also gay. Some stories are written in such a way that it doesn't even matter, it's just one fact among many of a character. (Albus Dumbledore, for example)

Now... my problem is largely when GAY becomes the character, rather when the character is gay. I.E. His entire purpose and existence is BEING GAY GAY GAY. And there is a lot of that out there because a lot of writers in the industry out and about think the ham-fisted approach to awareness of these issues is the right way, but they end up writing two dimensional characters whose only real defining aspect is how TOTALLY GAY they are. But it's not a problem with their sexuality so much as it is a problem with BAD WRITING. I'd even say it does more damage to the LGBT community for awareness than good. It's better to illustrate the gay character as a complete and regular (or irregular, as the case may and often will be) person, whose romantic inclinations happen to be homosexual.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with characters in stories being gay, just so long as that is not the COMPLETE AND TOTAL DEFINING ASPECT of the character. Unless he's a very unimportant character, like say a random dude at a bar. Yeah. My problem is that I don't like BAD WRITING.
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Re: Judge Dredd might be...

Postby Emperor's Prize » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:37 am

Captain Obvious wrote:Why does sexual orientation have to come up in comic books


Have you read any comic books ... ever? Sexual orientation comes up ALL THE TIME. Hero gets the object of his desire/affection ALL THE TIME. It's been overwhelmingly heterosexual. I've no problem with a story or movie providing a more realistic portrayal of the diversity of actual human relationships. As LT put it, there's an issue when sexuality becomes the defining aspect of a character - hell, even James Bond has evolved from being defined as a womanizer. But otherwise? It's all culture-war paranoia.
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Re: Judge Dredd might be...

Postby Jedi_Kyp_Durron » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:12 am

If my memory serves me right, Dredd isn't even human. Besides, he does not have any time for lovemaking. Being judge, jury and executioner is a full time job.
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Re: Judge Dredd might be...

Postby Captain Obvious » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:29 pm

Emperor's Prize wrote:
Captain Obvious wrote:Why does sexual orientation have to come up in comic books


Have you read any comic books ... ever? Sexual orientation comes up ALL THE TIME. Hero gets the object of his desire/affection ALL THE TIME. It's been overwhelmingly heterosexual. I've no problem with a story or movie providing a more realistic portrayal of the diversity of actual human relationships. As LT put it, there's an issue when sexuality becomes the defining aspect of a character - hell, even James Bond has evolved from being defined as a womanizer. But otherwise? It's all culture-war paranoia.



Looks like watching the movies doesn't count as reading the comic books.
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