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Postby Lord Tuvitor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:43 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6DJcgm3wNY[/youtube]

This... actually looks pretty awesome. And I'm loving the Hans Zimmer score.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby soxtalon » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:13 pm

That one...wow. I was kind of meh before this trailer but this one got me. I'm excited now....
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Jedi_Kyp_Durron » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:49 pm

It'll be the first Superman film I see in the cinema. I wish for some awesomeness.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Viper » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:29 am

The 2nd trailer is the one that got me. Too many good things about this to pass up.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Mon May 13, 2013 4:19 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVu3gS7iJu4[/youtube]

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Re: Man of Steel

Postby TARKINS_FOUL_SOCK » Mon May 13, 2013 9:56 pm

I think this is going to be the movie for me this summer. After the mess that was Superman Returns, this may remove that from my memory. The second trailer was awesome. This Superman has to be a winner, both his dads were Robin Hood at one point!
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Sun May 19, 2013 7:17 pm

Here is a breakdown of Trailer 3. It has some spoilers, so if you won't want to know, then don't watch:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Snlv8qKfXw[/youtube]
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Mon May 20, 2013 6:31 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtcEtDDqvu8[/youtube]
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Emperor's Prize » Mon May 20, 2013 8:19 pm

The trailers really do make the film look appealing. Hopefully the rest of the film is as good.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Wed May 22, 2013 3:03 am

Another trailer breakdown:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS4xVZ7rrLk[/youtube]
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Wed May 22, 2013 4:12 pm

Newest official trailer:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc[/youtube]
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:57 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkfmh3zcnX8[/youtube]

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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shem » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:13 am

Just saw a midnight showing. I have to say it is one is going down as one of my favorite movies EVER! I'll just leave it at that since I know many of you haven't seen it yet and will be soon.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Emperor's Prize » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:24 am

I saw this at the matinee this morning.

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I enjoyed the intent behind Cavill's Superman - his struggle to find his place in the world gives his nearly-invincible physical nature a vulnerable emotional one. And the brushstrokes of character that touched on that were some of the film's best parts. It was likewise good to see the awesome results of two (or three) god-like entities battling it out. But overall the emphasis skews way too much toward the action for the rest characters to gain a whole lot of traction or for the film to really connect on an emotional level (an exception: the scenes with Clark's father).

Even all that is excusable because, for the most part, the film is simply gorgeous to look at and its 'splosions are lot of fun. With one exception. The mass slaughter inside Metropolis (and presumably in the South Indian Ocean) goes wholly unacknowledged by ... well, by anyone, really. People are upset at how Superman defeats Zod ... but I think Superman's lack of awareness about the collateral damage of the conflict is what really undercuts his character and the film because the whole film was about him choosing to save people. Even a throwaway line or an attempt to get Zod and the Henchwoman to engage him in, say, the fields of Kansas, rather than in a town square would have made a big difference. Sure, he kills Zod to save a family - but what of all the other victims?

To put it another way: the death toll, and the way it's basically glossed over, is my biggest issue with the film. Superman felt anguish over his decision to defeat Zod - but where was the similar anguish over the consequences of the battle which, while necessary, perhaps, was utterly devastating? For this film, which makes such a big deal about safeguarding and saving lives, ignoring the cost is, to me, a relevant flaw in terms of the film's internal consistency.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Viper » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:10 am

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I think taking the time in the middle of the battle to address that would have been out of place. I am content with assuming that that scream when he was done done fighting was enough to encompass the sheer damage that was done in conjunction with killing Zod.






End spoiler

That being said, I left this movie speechless. I think its on par with Batman Begins in terms of greatness...which means its an awesome movie with a few flaws but is ultimately setting itself up for a sequel that will just own.

Movie is visually beautiful and the story actually made suoerman an interesting character for once...and the element of realism that Nolan is known for really makes this version of superman awesome.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby soxtalon » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:12 pm

I saw it and took a few days to digest it. I can safely say now that I am overall pleased with the film but there are definitely issues with it. It is not quite on par with Batman Begins. BUT It does have a lot going for it.


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Visually it is stunning - there is no denying. I enjoyed the casting quite a bit too although Zod was a *BIT* OTT for me. I didn't have quite the problem with the lack of reaction during the battle to the global casualties if only because it was in the heat of battle and this was Superman's FIRST battle so he's a little preoccupied.

My problem was with the scene where Supes kills Zod. It's not him killing Zod that I have a real problem with, but Superman's entire being had been that he was the one who never killed for any reason and it took a very long time for him to do so. Then when he finally did in comic worlds he was wracked with guilt and it took a long time to get over. Here we are in his origin story so to speak and he kills someone. This is the film that is supposed to establish the character. Establish the Superman.

It's just too soon. But even worse is that about 2-3 minutes screentime later he's trading barbs with the General and acting like everything is hunky dory. If the kill was to happen, it should have saved for a sequel down the line and had real significance to his character. I get the idea was to partially update Supes to modern times but I'm not sure that was the way to do it.

It didn't ruin the film for me but I feel it could have been greater.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Drunken Irish Picnic » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:35 pm

I'm putting the "lack of attention to collateral damage" card on Nolan's desk.

I distinctly remember watching Batman Begins (he's got one rule - he won't kill) when he escapes the cops in the tumbler. All of a sudden he's pancaking cars, causing police officers to roll over multiple times, etc. It was rather jarring and out of place to me. I even mentioned it to my buddy in the theater while we were watching it.

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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Viper » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:19 pm

soxtalon wrote:I saw it and took a few days to digest it. I can safely say now that I am overall pleased with the film but there are definitely issues with it. It is not quite on par with Batman Begins. BUT It does have a lot going for it.


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Visually it is stunning - there is no denying. I enjoyed the casting quite a bit too although Zod was a *BIT* OTT for me. I didn't have quite the problem with the lack of reaction during the battle to the global casualties if only because it was in the heat of battle and this was Superman's FIRST battle so he's a little preoccupied.

My problem was with the scene where Supes kills Zod. It's not him killing Zod that I have a real problem with, but Superman's entire being had been that he was the one who never killed for any reason and it took a very long time for him to do so. Then when he finally did in comic worlds he was wracked with guilt and it took a long time to get over. Here we are in his origin story so to speak and he kills someone. This is the film that is supposed to establish the character. Establish the Superman.

It's just too soon. But even worse is that about 2-3 minutes screentime later he's trading barbs with the General and acting like everything is hunky dory. If the kill was to happen, it should have saved for a sequel down the line and had real significance to his character. I get the idea was to partially update Supes to modern times but I'm not sure that was the way to do it.

It didn't ruin the film for me but I feel it could have been greater.


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I was actually more jarred by the WAY he killed Zod. Until that moment, it didn't occur to me that he could just snap his neck like a twig. I was under the impression that on earth, that sort of thing was impossible unless weakened in some way (such as the environment of Krypton on the ship).
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby soxtalon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:14 am

That too was a bit...weird. Maybe it was trying to boost Superman...but it did come off a bit weird.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Lord Tuvitor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:15 pm

Perhaps being exposed to Earth's environment empowers Kryptonian physiology more over time. Since Supes was on Earth most of his life, he's become far stronger/more invulnerable than Zod could ever be given the short amount of time he spent on Earth.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby soxtalon » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:36 am

Not a bad suggestion. I could see that but given that it wasn't explained it still comes off a bit weird...but I might be able to accept that. That would actually make sense why Superboy didn't accidentally kill people with a temper tantrum in his toddler years too :P
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Shaft » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:51 pm

I was a little surprised that he could snap Zod's neck, but it makes some sense.

All the Kryptonians on Earth had immediate benefits from the Earth's sun; namely, they were super-strong and could jump really high. However, it appeared that Kal was still stronger than them as he could take on more than one of them at the same time and hold his own. However, it was only Zod who could somewhat focus enough to control the other powers without the breather due to his "chief warrior" genetic makeup. However, he didn't put in the 33 years of time on Earth that Kal did, and hence likely didn't build up the level of "invulnerability" Kal did.

As far as Superman killing Zod goes, what choice did he have given the events of the movie? The Phantom Zone option was off the table. Zod clearly states that he no longer has a purpose and it looks like his new one will be to spite Superman by killing every last human. No human prison could hold Zod, and I don't think Superman at this time had the know-how or ships/equipment left to construct some sort of Kryptonian biosphere to house him in. Even if he did, he would have to restrain the guy himself while someone else constructed it--though it would have been interesting if they went in this direction and the guy at the end of the film building what was supposed to be a prison for Zod turned out to be Lex Luthor.
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Re: Man of Steel

Postby Drunken Irish Picnic » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:03 pm

Finally saw it this weekend. Overall I really enjoyed it. Definitely could have been better though.

- I disliked the new version of Pa Kent's death. It just seemed like an excuse for another big set piece of some type. The original idea is much more powerful, i.e., Pa Kent dies from the one thing Superman could never stop - a heart attack.

- Nearly anything to do with Lois Lane. I didn't in any way buy the two falling for each other. It just seemed kind of shoe horned in. It seems so underdeveloped in fact, that i'm guessing there may be a bunch of material that hit the cutting room floor ("hoping" more than guessing actually). Lois Lane seemed to exist solely for people to give her exposition in the movie.

- That said, the visuals were fantastic. I liked Cavill in the role alot. I didn't mind the destruction in the Zod fight, as by the time the two duked it out, the scope of the threat and the damage already done to the city didn't make it seem unreasonable. Plus Superman spent the first half of the movie saving people.

- I didn't mind him killing Zod. Are people bitching about this totally forgetting Superman 2? He tricks Zod into losing his powers, then crushes his hand and tosses him down a bottomless pit of some type in the Fortress of Solitude.

There were ABSOLUTELY some plot holes here & there you could drive a Mack truck through, but I can look past it. I liked the film. I'd recommend it. B-)
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